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Poll: Helping Infantry to Deal with Archers (387 member(s) have cast votes)

What ideas of helping infantry to deal with archers do you like?

  1. Do nothing, everything is fine. (60 votes [15.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.50%

  2. Disallow all bowmen to shoot while jumping. (159 votes [41.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.09%

  3. Disallow longbowmen to shoot while jumping. (70 votes [18.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.09%

  4. Take 1-2 skill points for the ability to use 2 quivers of arrows. (103 votes [26.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.61%

  5. Increase weight of arrows to 2.0-3.0. (99 votes [25.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.58%

  6. Make shields more durable. (110 votes [28.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.42%

  7. Give all infantrymen 1-2 free levels of the Shield skill. (143 votes [36.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.95%

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#41 Dinkywinky, Sandorra you're a damn pleb. Go eat Dog shit with Paprica.

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 22:28

But Homer you didn't want to buff throwing weapons because it would mean changing another class, wouldn't the same apply to shielders?


#42 Teoiss, the Pajkmen

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 08:22

Jumping when "shooting and running" is not really necessary.

 

I know from experience that people just run and turn around with arrow already drowed. Jumping was just to make it cooler.

 

I think that removing it for those big bows would be ok, but it wont stop them (people who run).

Imo


#43 SkyTime, Ranga

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 18:16

 

YES! Don't give us the buffs we deserve give us the buffs we need. I hope with these sets of changes mercs will finally be about killing people with your sword instead of 360 no-scope somebody in the face.

 

THE COMMUNITY HAS VOTED!

 

Are you stupid? Majority of the votes are for the other options, I feel like giving almost everyone a few points in shield skill is a very stupid idea. The other options are infinitely better. I'm also fairly sure you're on a personal campaign against archers, completely refusing to acknowledge their weaknesses (their melee has been significantly nerfed already) and only considering the few bad encounters you've had with them, resulting in very, very bad input from you.

 

 

Jumping when "shooting and running" is not really necessary.

 

I know from experience that people just run and turn around with arrow already drowed. Jumping was just to make it cooler.

 

I think that removing it for those big bows would be ok, but it wont stop them (people who run).

Imo

 

That jump gets you further away though. If removing jumping and shooting won't deal with the runners (which it evidently will not), we could/should considering several of these changes. Making quivers heavier for example, or limiting archers to a single quiver without a perk (now that would be a very major thing, especially in siege, potentially the hardest of the hammers). Also for the sake of making shielders more appealing, buffing shields wouldn't harm anyone. Swords chop through shields rather easily and axes, as expected, even quicker.


#44 Dawlish, Un-Officially retired

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 18:46

By the way, pretty sure the poll is just to find the most popular option, Homer isn't going to implement 6 nerfs at once...


#45 SkyTime, Ranga

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 18:47

Of course not, but some of them aren't big changes at all.


#46 Unifyforce

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 19:05

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#47 Jepekula

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:17

You're not, though, it seems.

#48 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:13

Whats with the trend of posting pictures instead of using actual arguments?

 

I dun get it.


#49 Dawlish, Un-Officially retired

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:28

They're not posting them instead of arguments, they're posting them because they don't have a good argument.

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#50 Teoiss, the Pajkmen

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:47

I know it wasnt to me but....

 

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There u go


#51 wangchan, The Face of Mercenaries

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 18:58

Dawlish is right....instead of giving shielders points, we should just focus on archers only.


#52 Megamen, One, Two, Drink

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 08:57

If we choose the non jumping option, all archers will just resort to horse archery because it is basically the same, and they can still keep on riding and shooting. I think i'd even rather have these pathetic run and shoot ground archers than horse archers :D


#53 Dawlish, Un-Officially retired

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 09:11

Hmm I'm not sure they will, for starters its expensive, and secondly the preferred mode for most archers is siege. Horse archery is close to useless on siege.


#54 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:57

Not to mention the amount of cav that will try to hunt you down when you are a horse archer compared to a normal archer.

 

People don't like to lose K/D.


#55 SkyTime, Ranga

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 14:20

As a ground archer I prioritize on HA over anything else as well, because fuck anyone who plays HA.


#56 wangchan, The Face of Mercenaries

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 21:46

I can confirm that we should remove archery


#57 SirAlecks, *gets warned* "admin is comic?" -Sharp_Shneider 2k16

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 08:51

Are you stupid? Majority of the votes are for the other options, I feel like giving almost everyone a few points in shield skill is a very stupid idea. The other options are infinitely better. I'm also fairly sure you're on a personal campaign against archers, completely refusing to acknowledge their weaknesses (their melee has been significantly nerfed already) and only considering the few bad encounters you've had with them, resulting in very, very bad input from you.

 

 

COUGHCOUGHCAVALRYPOSTCOUGHCOUGH

Edited by SirAlecks, 19 February 2015 - 08:54.

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#58 Krhman

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 09:39

I suggest to do nothing or atleast add 1-2 skill to shield. Making them more durable is just plain dumb it would affect more inf then archers and there are people who don't know how to deal with archers so they just go bitching on forums

Edited by Krhman, 19 February 2015 - 09:43.


#59 Teoiss, the Pajkmen

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:38

I wanted to say a word of wisdom, but.... nah am just gonna log out.

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#60 SkyTime, Ranga

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 12:00

COUGHCOUGHCAVALRYPOSTCOUGHCOUGH

 

few bad encounters =/= facing it every time you play battle, thus being unable to actually play the way you want most of the time.

 

Be it infantry or ranged I play, I rarely have trouble with archers. Of course that's just my view but I try to be as reasonable about cavalry as I can be unlike this one mongoloid whose name I can't even remember who is on a fanatic rampage.

 

 

I suggest to do nothing or atleast add 1-2 skill to shield. Making them more durable is just plain dumb it would affect more inf then archers and there are people who don't know how to deal with archers so they just go bitching on forums

 

Shielders are somewhat underwhelming when compared to the other classes, by no means bad but just not very appealing. Making shields more durable, thus more dependable would alleviate that a little so it's not that bad of an idea. It doesn't concern archery that much though.

Edited by SkyTime, 20 February 2015 - 12:01.





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