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Poll: Helping Infantry to Deal with Archers (387 member(s) have cast votes)

What ideas of helping infantry to deal with archers do you like?

  1. Do nothing, everything is fine. (60 votes [15.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.50%

  2. Disallow all bowmen to shoot while jumping. (159 votes [41.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.09%

  3. Disallow longbowmen to shoot while jumping. (70 votes [18.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.09%

  4. Take 1-2 skill points for the ability to use 2 quivers of arrows. (103 votes [26.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.61%

  5. Increase weight of arrows to 2.0-3.0. (99 votes [25.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.58%

  6. Make shields more durable. (110 votes [28.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.42%

  7. Give all infantrymen 1-2 free levels of the Shield skill. (143 votes [36.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.95%

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#1 Homer

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 17:42

Some of these ideas may help infantrymen to deal with archers and make them less annoying. What ideas do you like?

Notice that you can choose more than one option. Even if you vote for the "do noting" option, you might like some other ideas too.

In the latter option, "infantrymen" means all classes except archers and cavalry. So, if you spend some skill points on Riding or Power Draw, you lose the free levels of the Shield skill.
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#2 Unifyforce

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 17:44

I voted for them all

 

#nerfarchers

 

Also where is my idea? I wanted to increase the weight from 2.0 to something like 10.0.

Decrease bow damage? 

Edited by Unifyforce, 13 February 2015 - 17:47.


#3 Dawlish, Un-Officially retired

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 17:53

Because 10.0 is quite stupid to be honest. How would a bag of arrows weigh more than two flamberges...


#4 Unifyforce

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 17:56

Because 10.0 is quite stupid to be honest. How would a bag of arrows weigh more than two flamberges...

 

How would a person jump 360 and shoot somebody in the head?

It is obv for balancing reasons so they can't run away while using their bow. If they need to fight they drop the bow and get their weight back to normal


#5 Remuseldo

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:02

Everything except the first solution IMO.


#6 Dawlish, Un-Officially retired

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:03

You don't just throw out the entire weight system of the mod just to fix one issue, that's not how you balance stuff. Or in any case you always start with gradual changes rather and just going mental with extreme weight increases.


#7 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:11

How would a person jump 360 and shoot somebody in the head?

It is obv for balancing reasons so they can't run away while using their bow. If they need to fight they drop the bow and get their weight back to normal

Not to mention they only turn 180 degrees. Besides, if they can't jump and shoot, what's the point in raising weight also? It's not like a peasant with just a pitchfork couldn't run away either, or should we increase the pitchfork weight to 20 too? Now that we start, how about fists start weighing also? Even better, let's remove running completely and everyone goes around in walking speed. Except horses, ofcourse, and horsearchers, since you play one of the latter


#8 Arcar, We do the same, i just do it better than you.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:16

The archer would just run away if they are faster then you then they turn around and shoot you then they run away again and shoot you again


#9 Anchor_The_Mean

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:22

No buffs to throwing weapons? Increasing the projectile speed of light/normal throwing axes could help with the archer problem.

#10 Homer

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:36

This idea should be discussed separately because throwing weapons are used against all classes, not just archers. Infantrymen would be affected too.

#11 Unifyforce

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:43

Not to mention they only turn 180 degrees. Besides, if they can't jump and shoot, what's the point in raising weight also? It's not like a peasant with just a pitchfork couldn't run away either, or should we increase the pitchfork weight to 20 too? Now that we start, how about fists start weighing also? Even better, let's remove running completely and everyone goes around in walking speed. Except horses, ofcourse, and horsearchers, since you play one of the latter

 

a peasant with a pitch fork gains little with running away. Atleast this way an archer has a reason to go into melee as it should. Crpg has this mechanic. My idea was increasing the weight to something heavy so they can't run away and this is what most people voted for. So please Homer let the community decide.

 

Also weight affects speed on horses aswell so don't throw the "because you are a horse archer" argument.


#12 Dinkywinky, Sandorra you're a damn pleb. Go eat Dog shit with Paprica.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 18:47

Options are good.


#13 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 19:32

 this is what most people voted for. So please Homer let the community decide.

 

Actually, people mostly said that the jumping while shooting should be removed. That's the leading option right there. Guess that's what the community wants.


#14 Unifyforce

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 19:58

 Option 1 (30 votes [35.71%] - View)

 

option 1 is increasing weight of arrows nobody is voting for it because nobody wants 2.0-3.0 but rather 2.0-10.0 make the option available so the community can choice.

Edited by Unifyforce, 13 February 2015 - 19:58.


#15 Ryan, End my suffering

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 20:27

Shield durability imo, sick of getting spammed to fuck by some skill-less cunt with a GLB then backpeddles leaving me with a 0.70m weapon vs. giant fucking axe-thingy.


#16 Korpi_Jopo, Dark suuls

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 20:33

The 1-2 free shield skill idea could be really good since you wouldnt need to invest so much skill points to using shields.


#17 wangchan, The Face of Mercenaries

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 20:46

I tried to post a really good comment to help the discussion but I just couldnt do it...but I agree with all of the above options


#18 Dinkywinky, Sandorra you're a damn pleb. Go eat Dog shit with Paprica.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 21:17

Frank just accept some people have different opinions the poll is up changes are being made there's nothing to argue about anymore...

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#19 TheGodlyBrit

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 22:34

Should still be able to jump with a small bow just not a long one. Nerfed.


#20 Shemaforash, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 22:46

Shield durability imo, sick of getting spammed to fuck by some skill-less cunt with a GLB then backpeddles leaving me with a 0.70m weapon vs. giant fucking axe-thingy.

 

There is no way shield durability will save more than 2 hits on your shield. You're fucked unless you get better.





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