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Poll: Cavalry balance poll (359 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your opinion of the current cavalry class?

  1. Cavalry is generally overpowered. (81 votes [22.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.56%

  2. Light Cavalry is overpowered. (15 votes [4.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.18%

  3. Heavy Cavalry is overpowered. (22 votes [6.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.13%

  4. Cavalry stacking is the main problem. (89 votes [24.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.79%

  5. Cavalry is fine the way it is. (115 votes [32.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.03%

  6. Cavalry is under-powered. (37 votes [10.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.31%

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#21 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 14:18

I shoot a horse. Thing is, they don't stay in the open where I can shoot at them. I have two options, go to the open myself = Lance to the back by 2-5 cavs, or camp a 'safe' position = enemy infantry swarms me when friendly infantry has fallen one by one to their horde/run away from the horde.


#22 Lord_Anden, ArchDuke of Vintroth

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 16:26

Light cav would still require said nerf, even if heavy cav was buffed. Buffing heavy cav wouldn't solve the problem at all, only divide it to different categories more.

Thats because light and heavy are not the same. It would be stupid to say they are, they already different categories.


#23 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 17:09

I might have phrased that bit badly. I didn't mean that heavy and light cav are same, nor that they have the same problems. I meant that the overall problem of cavalry being what it is, would be so even more, when they only get a buff, and no nerfs.


#24 Lord_Anden, ArchDuke of Vintroth

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 18:59

I am quite sure you missed this in my first post.

"I'd say a small nerf for light cav and leave the heavy cav alone(or a small buff for heavy)."

 

EDIT: Though, I think that a small nerf would probably not be enough anyhow, it should probably be a larger nerf. But still, heavy cav should not get a nerf. The tradeoff is bad already.

Edited by Lord_Anden, 18 October 2014 - 19:01.


#25 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 19:28

Yeah, we are talking of same thing, but not understanding each other. I don't mind a small buff for heavy cav, but light cav HAS to be nerfed in way or another. Heavy cav's only advantage is that it takes a crapload of damage. Then again, that's what it's there for.


#26 Lord_Anden, ArchDuke of Vintroth

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 21:19

Yeah, we are talking of same thing, but not understanding each other. I don't mind a small buff for heavy cav, but light cav HAS to be nerfed in way or another. Heavy cav's only advantage is that it takes a crapload of damage. Then again, that's what it's there for.

Then we are in agreement :P

Though I still think the tradeoff for heavy cav could be improved slightly.


#27 SkyTime, Rangah deals in propane and propane accessorie to perkons

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 00:46

My god some of the ignorant bullshit in this thread hurts my head.

 

 

Cavalry isn't overpowered especially the light cavalry. If you are archer you just need 2 or 3 arrows (5 maximum) to kill the horse. If the archers are not smart enough not to hit the horse, is their problem. However, if you are infantry you just need a spear (heavy spear, long spear, pike and more). And if you have all this equipment, but the cavalry kill you anyway this want mean that you are NOOB. Easy   ^_^

 

 

Could you fucking not?


#28 Bashful, gwaihir more like gayhir

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 09:47

Cavalry isn't overpowered at all..

Horse archers are


#29 chrisi, Rise and rise again until lambs become lions

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:19

Cavalry isn't overpowered at all..
Horse archers are

We got all a problem with OP classes.
Guys if someone can play a class very good like
Doori and Mous or other guys =Cav op
Sandorra, Arcar etc. =Archer op
Alexander, Bert etc. =2h op
Demon, Malik= 1h+shield op
Leroy= 1h op
Its not about how op a class is. its about how good the player can play with that class
Thats my opinion tell me if im wrong.

#30 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:42

Class is somewhat op when some numnut with no skills can still get to top of scoreboard with it. Cav is one of those.

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#31 Gazz, in the army now woo o o

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:47

Its not about how op a class is. its about how good the player can play with that class
Thats my opinion tell me if im wrong.

 

Wrong. You don't balance classes by going "that player is good with that class so he is OP!11".

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#32 Euronymous, When you're in hell, only a devil can point the way out.

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 11:11

Class is somewhat op when some numnut with no skills can still get to top of scoreboard with it. Cav is one of those.

 

Wrong. You don't balance classes by going "that player is good with that class so he is OP!11".

Just this. Cav is the only class where any idiot with a lance can get on top of the scoreboard, and that alone should be enough reason to balance the class.


#33 Emcore

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 11:38

Cav isnt op


#34 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 11:41

Could you give some reasons why it's not op? We have given lots to prove why it would require a nerf.


#35 Euronymous, When you're in hell, only a devil can point the way out.

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 11:47

Silly Sandorra! Since he is playing cav that means the class isn't OP!

Edited by Euronymous, 19 October 2014 - 11:48.


#36 Jepekula

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 12:30

OMFG UR JUST NOOBS XDDDDDDDDDDD

L00K HOW PRO I AM WHEN I KEEL EVER1 WIT MY LANCE XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

L0000L NOOBS CAN'T CATSH MI CUZ IM JUST 2 PRO WITHF MYHORSE THEY CANT EVEN KEEL ME WHEN I CRASH INTO A WALL L0L

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#37 Emcore

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 13:52

Cav isnt op because : -3 arrows from an Archer like Sandorra = horse dead (sarranid horse)

                                   -Infantry mabe should take a spear (obvious)

                                   -there are many ways to kill a cav with 2hander

                                   -you can block the lance with a shield (like all other weapons by the way)

                                   -Backstep-kills from cav are so op (maybe you should use the ^ button to turn your view )


#38 Lady_Asula_the_Brave, Hermann the German

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 14:04

Yea i think Cav isnt OP. As Emcore and many other Guys said there are many ways to kill Cavs. And if you dont have a Spear with you you can easy climb a higher Place on all Maps like Village...you can climb 1000 Roofs or Forest Arena go into the tunnels. So i think there are many ways to play against Cavs.


#39 Emcore

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 14:12

RlkP2IK.png        Show me Cavs with such Kds on the Scoreboard ppls


#40 Euronymous, When you're in hell, only a devil can point the way out.

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 14:14

Cav isnt op because : -3 arrows from an Archer like Sandorra = horse dead (sarranid horse)

                                

Archers get jack shit for shooting at horses so they don't do it.

 

 

Cav isnt op because :

                                   -Infantry mabe should take a spear (obvious)

                       

That would be a smart idea if cav just couldn't do a 360 turn on the spot and accelerate faster than a car in the other direction. Not to mention all the heavy lance BS that out ranges everything.

 

 

Cav isnt op because :

                                   -there are many ways to kill a cav with 2hander

                 

There are more ways for cav to kill 2 handers

 

 

Cav isnt op because :

                                   -you can block the lance with a shield (like all other weapons by the way

                      

Yeah, you can. But you can also get bumped and get hit anyways. Besides, most cav comes from the back or the side.

 

 

Cav isnt op because :

                                   -Backstep-kills from cav are so op (maybe you should use the ^ button to turn your view )

Care to explain what you mean by a backstep kill?

 

EDIT: KD and scoreboard means jackshit. This isn't a discusion about the scoreboard. And thoose guys probaly have good scores from playing defenders all the time at siege.

 

EDIT 2: You forgot archean that is number 5, and then GoHargo at 6

Edited by Euronymous, 19 October 2014 - 14:18.

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