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Poll: Archer balance poll (410 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your opinion of the current archer class?

  1. Archers are too powerful at the moment. (133 votes [32.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.44%

  2. Archers are underpowered. (46 votes [11.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.22%

  3. Archers are too powerful on certain maps and game-modes. (111 votes [27.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.07%

  4. Archers are fine the way they are. (120 votes [29.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.27%

Do you think a weak 0 skill shield would be helpful?

  1. Yes. (267 votes [65.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.12%

  2. No. (143 votes [34.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.88%

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#41 The_Bear_Jew, I don't care about ur meaningless words, megamen.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 08:38

Ye dont let them reload while running, no run and shoot pfff scrub archers


#42 Viator, the White Wolf

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:20

By the way. That 0-skill-shield would be pretty damn useless as are the current 1-skill-shields. I use one for my two-handed character and nearly every arrow hits me while using it. I think the reason for this is that the "shields-effective-size" which increases with the amount of skills used for "shield-skill" is too low.

 

A 0-skill-shield would hardly change anything then.

Edited by Rock_Solid, 30 May 2014 - 12:23.


#43 Remus, Im unlucky, but get proper earnings

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:23

The 1 point shields aren't useless.
I've played long with small round shield only as cav, and it was not hard to survive.

#44 Dawlish, Un-Officially retired

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:08

I used the 1 point red shield on siege for a bit and it worked fine for me. True some archers will be good enough aim to still hit you in the feet maybe, but generally you would be fairly safe from arrows being fired from the castle walls I would have thought.


#45 Viator, the White Wolf

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:22

Well, don't know why, but I constantly die to arrows while using that shield. Still better than nothing, but ... crap.


#46 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:28

Well, don't know why, but I constantly die to arrows while using that shield. Still better than nothing, but ... crap.

 

 

Even with a 4 shieldskill top tier shield certain archers can shoot my legs.

 

You just gotta to look where they are aiming and lower or lift your shield accordingly.


#47 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:51

That's because you make it easy to shoot. If you don't cover both head and legs, one is going to get shot if the archer is of any quality. I've shot so many peeps with low shield skills because they cover their head and get shot in the legs.


#48 Viator, the White Wolf

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 11:18

The 0-skill-shield would be no problem for most of the archers. And that's why it would be useless.


#49 Remus, Im unlucky, but get proper earnings

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 12:03

Rofl


#50 Euronymous, When you're in hell, only a devil can point the way out.

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 16:17

The 0-skill-shield would be no problem for most of the archers. And that's why it would be useless.

Having some kind of shield is alot better than not having one. Take a test, go out in the open with a shield, then go out in the open without one. As soon as you go out of cover without a shield you are basicly dead. Even though the free shield dosen't cover much, it covers most of your upperbody, and if it only saves you from 2 arrows, it's alot better than getting hit by 2 arrows.

Edited by Euronymous, 31 May 2014 - 16:17.

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#51 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 17:14

You don't understand Euro.

 

Shields are for noobs who cannot block and cannot handle wielding a 2handed sword.


#52 Shemaforash, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 17:29

I've used a level one shield for the entirety of my Mercenaries career and it works alright except for the more experienced archers, as expected. I voted for that archers are underpowered.

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#53 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 17:45

You don't understand Euro Shema.

 

Shields are for noobs who cannot block and cannot handle wielding a 2handed sword.


#54 Euronymous, When you're in hell, only a devil can point the way out.

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 17:54

You don't understand Euro.

 

Shields are for noobs who cannot block and cannot handle wielding a 2handed sword.

Oh right. How could I forget.


#55 Viator, the White Wolf

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:03

Having some kind of shield is alot better than not having one. Take a test, go out in the open with a shield, then go out in the open without one. As soon as you go out of cover without a shield you are basicly dead. Even though the free shield dosen't cover much, it covers most of your upperbody, and if it only saves you from 2 arrows, it's alot better than getting hit by 2 arrows.

 

He got a point there.


#56 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 12:55

You don't understand Euro Shema  Rockie
 
Shields are for noobs who cannot block and cannot handle wielding a 2handed sword.


#57 Roran 13, Sandorra's practice target

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 13:45

The real advantage of a 0 skill shield is having one. As an archer you have senses for spotting and shooting the guys without shields and helmets first, then without shields, then with shields without helmets, and then with both. Before all that is unarmoured shieldless spamtards. They deserve to die.

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#58 Shemaforash, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 07:03

As with anything, anything in masses is quite powerful, which leads to the poll results being biased


#59 NeToMaN, *Insert member title here*

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 10:05

Archers are not overpowerd at all. Have you ever played Native? Here, bows are slower, shots are less accurated, but dmg is still probably same as in Native - but mos of people have betters armours than in Native, so it is much harder to get gigant amount of kills.
Most of mercs are 2 handers and cavs, and it is just easy to shot them down. Just buy shield. No matter it is 1 skill shield or 3. Still you can rape archers. Learn to dodge arrows. Don't go in to open field, when archers are all over it. Don't rush houses and any others constructions if you're shieldless.


2nd thing - 0 skill shield? Not so good idea imo, if you want to keep merc in this shape don't make infs so pro agianst ranged, it is enough that it takes 5829692858 hours to draw bow or reload xbow. Only thing should be changed is balance on map. Flags shouldn't be spawned on positions that archers camps so often, or cav can get you so easy. There are many maps, like the one with 3 big connected houses in the middle. Flag spawns at the top - 3 camping archers can kill everyone who want enter up without shield.

Sorry for bad english. Again xD

#60 Korpi_Jopo, Dark suuls

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 10:36

Stronk polak speak the truth *UGH*





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