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#61 Jepekula

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 14:59

What should be done about cav: Nothing. I wish we could just leave things alone. Surely cav is always going to have an advantage over other classes, because they have an extra piece of equipment (a horse) if they were nerfed until they were exactly the same as other classes, then the horse would be a bit of a rip off.

 

Sigh. So, they buy something, so they should be utterly and completely unkillable and have a fucked up advantage against everyone else because lol?

That's utterly and completely stupid.

 And fucking hell, right now, cavalry is just exactly like other classes. It just has a horse, which makes it able to onehit kill fucking everything, but has absolutely no disadvantages at all, except maybe having few points less in athletics. If your horse dies, just take that GLB out of your ass and hey, you're a normal polearmderp. Or use a shield and a sword instead, and you are a normal shielder. If your horse dies, you are just as effective as infantry as dedicated infantry. Cavalry has no disadvantages at all.


#62 Shemaforash, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:09

Cavalry trades athletics/shield skill/ironflesh for grabbing riding skill, what do you mean no trade-offs? Those points can make a significant difference in your gameplay.


#63 Gwaihir, *insert name*? Ban more like

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:12

Sigh. So, they buy something, so they should be utterly and completely unkillable and have a fucked up advantage against everyone else because lol?

That's utterly and completely stupid.

 And fucking hell, right now, cavalry is just exactly like other classes. It just has a horse, which makes it able to onehit kill fucking everything, but has absolutely no disadvantages at all, except maybe having few points less in athletics. If your horse dies, just take that GLB out of your ass and hey, you're a normal polearmderp. Or use a shield and a sword instead, and you are a normal shielder. If your horse dies, you are just as effective as infantry as dedicated infantry. Cavalry has no disadvantages at all.

 

I didnt say buying a horse should make me invincible, although that does sound pretty cool. People have the attitude that cav is some super class that enables the rider to be an unstoppable force of nature, comparable to god himself. I die plenty of times, and its not because Im terrible at cav. As a horseman I usually get picked on by archers. Also, I dont have the 'safety in numbers' factor, like footmen do. The majority of cav go off on their own, meaning they can be caught out.  And once dismounted, you are not as effective as your dedicated counterparts. Add to that the fact that the majority of players have a deep hatred for cav, which means they will single you out.

Edited by Gwaihir, 01 April 2014 - 15:12.


#64 Gwaihir, *insert name*? Ban more like

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:23

Yeah but a horseman can lose his horse, a bowman doesnt lose his bow


#65 Shemaforash, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:24

But then it is a disadvantage for other classes as well... archers can not have a big amount of healt and PS cuz they use up they skill points on power draw, xbowmans use them at reloading etc. it is not a disadvantage, simply u can not be good at everything, u have to choose.

 

Sure, if you see it that way. In my eyes the system being used is the most balanced because it provides everyone with an equal chance of investing points, no?


#66 matee, Taipan's brother, vendetta's lover

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:27

But then it is a disadvantage for other classes as well... archers can not have a big amount of healt and PS cuz they use up they skill points on power draw, xbowmans use them at reloading etc. it is not a disadvantage, simply u can not be good at everything, u have to choose.(sorry for deleting it, I though I quoted the wrong person)

 

 

 

Yes it is balanced.


#67 matee, Taipan's brother, vendetta's lover

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:28

Yeah but a horseman can lose his horse, a bowman doesnt lose his bow

a bowman can run out of ammo...


#68 Celtic

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:35

a bowman can run out of ammo...

 

and a shielder can lose his shield...


#69 Celtic

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:42

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So it works :P Really nice map.

Edited by Dawlish, 01 April 2014 - 15:55.


#70 Gwaihir, *insert name*? Ban more like

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:34

a bowman can run out of ammo...

 

Well they can, but most carry two lots of arrows, and it would be hard to use all those arrows up even if you wanted to.


#71 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:43

I usually run out of arrows in the first 2 minutes.

 

But I tend to shoot at anything I see that moves.


#72 Gazz, fuck christ oy

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:55

The legend doesn't tell how Cydonia managed to never hit allies while shooting at everything that moves.


#73 LastKnightOfCydonia, EIN CLAN, EIN DERP, EIN CYDONIA. HAIL THE PURPLE ONE.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:10

Blunted tips.

 

Thats the key.


#74 Dariusdu85

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:40

Great update.


#75 sandorra, The God of (In)Justice

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:43

I've ran often out of arrows. Considering I have a slow build, that's something.


#76 Gwaihir, *insert name*? Ban more like

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:43

I like the additions to Dugan Gorge. Makes it a much better map to play.

I've ran often out of arrows. Considering I have a slow build, that's something.

Shh!

#77 Rojen

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:59

I tend to run out of arrows more often with my 30 str archer than my 15 str archer


#78 Prussia, Salty Brit

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 18:02

New battle maps are poor and the changes to the existing one are alright I guess, furthermore the new items I dislike aside from the boots added and the new courser seat. I'll rate a 3/10. Needs better items and more battle maps.


#79 Dodge999

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 18:36

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So it works :P Really nice map.

 

Listen, ssssh donate that nice amount of money towards me and I will give you unlimited love and I might repay that favor in steam keys :D.


#80 SkyTime, 00101111 00101111 01100100 01100001 01100010 00101111 00101111

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 19:02

Cavalry trades athletics/shield skill/ironflesh for grabbing riding skill, what do you mean no trade-offs? Those points can make a significant difference in your gameplay.

 

 

Only problem is that that's the case only in theory. Those points spent in riding don't mean jack shit. Cavalry act as perfect infantry just as well as regular infantry.





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